If your were sending the above video (from your previous thread) to me as some kind of testimony/proof that Trump is an ESTP it only makes me think that the chick in this video herself does not understand cognitive functions, and by extension, types.
She says “I think it is freaking obvious that Trump is a poster child for ESTP which makes me believe these people (people on forums saying he is ENTJ) don’t understand cognitive functions.”
OK, same old same old. It’s like a religious issue. These x people don’t get what I can see so clearly, thus, they are wrong.
OK, then she goes on to make some argumentation:
“Trump is good at thinking on his feet”
Yes, and an ENTJ can be good at thinking on their feet. It’s called Se in the tertiary. The tertiary is akin to how a person thinks. So, ENTJs think in an Se style.
“He’s not a look far into the future person”
It is well-documented that Trump is a person that looks into the future and plans. For example, he didn’t just come up with the idea recently to run for president. It took a lot of planning. To be the successful businessman that he has been, it takes the ability to look into the future and estimate probabilities of success and so forth. An ESTP will not be as successful at business as an ENTJ can be. If anyone attains a large fortune through their own abilities it is probaly because they have strong intuition in addition to a sense of realism. However, a sense of realism is not enough.
“His skills and talents are about thinking on his feet, spontaneity and subverting the whole system and using it to his advantage, which is very introverted thinking, extraverted feeling pairing as opposed to extraverted thinking/introverted thinking pairing.”
Interestingly, the words skills and talents is used. I would say, yes, the skills and talents of any type lie in the aux. and tert. functions the most. Again, thinking on one’s feet and spontaneity are definitely a gift of the ENxJ types. Let’s not forget they have Ne id too. Very good for spontaneity and thinking on one’s feet. Good for stand-up comedy too.
I would be very careful with the phrase “subverting the system”. To me it is clear that Trump is subverting a corrupt system in order to reinstate…the system as it was before it became corrupted (or subverted for that matter).
Even so, an ESTP could hardly be considered a subverter of the system. If any cog. function is responsible for that ability, it is Ni (in a deep sense) and Ne in a playful sense. Se, no.
She says “and maybe your hyping him up to be some sort of super-planner genius as opposed to being more of a spontaneous risk taker, which is what he is.”
Personally, I don’t think ENTJs claim to fame is really about them being super-planner geniuses, though, of course with Te dominance, they do plan and formulate. But, remember, dominant functions are not out-front functions. They are more akin to operating systems in a computer. They are involved in all processes but far to busy to be leading functions. Or highly visible. Yes, what is most visible about Trump is the Ni-Se axis. This equates to thinking on feet, risk-taking, and subverting the system (with Ni leading). Yes, it’s obvious that Trump has a lot of Se, but its in a context of Te and Ni and Ne. It’s basically exactly what I would expect from an ENTJ.
ENTJs can make unpopular decisions and cause a lot of controversy. They have a direct and honest manner.
Trump is not at all deficient in Ni, which I know is another point people who think he is an ESTP trot out. Seems people don’t really know what Ni looks like. It looks like Donald Trump, especially as he has gotten older. His bombast and directness are Ni. Ni is fire. Ni in the aux. doubly so.