I think you may just be (in some ways) the INFJ to my ENTP. Not in the teasing and romantically ironic way I’ve been playing with throughout our intertwining conversations along the way. But in the ways in which we think, express ourselves and reason about our environments (as far as I can tell).
As anyone who’s been paying attention can notice, I’ve been blatantly using my Fe in obvious and amateurish fashion. This is desperately needed at this point in my personal development as I was starting to become jaded, more cynical than is healthy and downright just plain dark toward the human species. I even started referring to people outside of myself as “humans”. Humorously at first, implying that they were somehow different or “other” than me. Then I noticed I was starting to believe the gag and use the term unconsciously…scary!
So, being the inquisitive fellow I am, I began to look inward, borrowing from philosophical and psychological contexts and methods I have acquired along the way in the form of Myers-Briggs, Jungian typology and concepts of the unconscious, Huxleyan elements of the Perennial Philosophy, Poetry, Novels, Movies and Art (Dostoevsky, Twain, Kafka, Yeats, Eliot, Ginsberg, Gilliam, Scorsese, Burton, Surrealism, Dada, Bach, Glass and others), The Enlightenment, The Renaissance (Rosicrucianism in its mysterious form of covering a few epochs as arising from Paracelsus, projects funded by the Medici family, The Corpus Hermeticum, Oration on the Dignity of Man, Marsilio Ficino and others echoing as far back as human history itself from Sumerian and Egyptian mythology leading to Orphism, Gnosticism, early Coptic Christians and Sufi Muslims, all ostensibly borrowed from Zoroastrian and Kabbalistic beliefs - at least in the Western world - truly saddening however our arrogant and prideful ignorance of the East, where I’m just recently learning about a pre-modern Persian and Arab Enlightenment that took place seven centuries before our own whom we can thank for such terms as algebra, algorithm, cipher, et al), Esotericism (alchemy, magic, incantation), Mysticism (East and West), Religion (Thelema, Theosophical Society, Satanism and more), History and Science (Theory, Logic, Quantum representations of space and time in mathematical abstractions - that I somehow understand in their relative application but can in no way calculate internally or externally in form i.e. calculus, geometry and linear algebra, unless related back to physics and chemistry - and how these quantum realms not only correlate to, but are directly responsible for, all of humanity and its metaphysical speculations on the collective consciousness of the Universe, including the Universe itself, while, also realizing at the same time, we have come no closer to understanding as we still describe the powers operated on by quarks to bond heavier particles and eventually atoms that we can interact with in the physically tangible world that we nascently consider “practical reality” as, “the weak force” and “strong force”; to me, this is tantamount to saying; “an object at rest stays at rest”, “opposites attract”, “objects in motion stay in motion unless acted on by an opposing force” all of which Hermes Trismegistus dictated to the metaphysically inclined prophets and intelligentsia of our ancestors long before Newton began his trite utterances while deliriously tasting Mercury. Newton was heavily into Alchemy and Mysticism as anyone familiar with his works and biography would know. He was a brilliant mathematician. But merely a mimic when it came to Science. Hence my humble irreverence.
Howbeit, of all of these schools of thought, modes of intelligence and stores of knowledge we are concerned with here, alas, it is not the Scientist nor Mystic that I laud in vaunted esteem above all of human creation…
No, no, no. Not at all. Ladies and gentleman! This honorific and supremely necessary privilege belongs to the mantle of the Philosopher. From Titans of thought throughout time such as: Thales, Heraclitus, Socrates, Confucius, Lao Tzu, Averroes, Meister Eckhart, Machiavelli, Francis Bacon, Descartes, Locke, Voltaire, Nietzsche, Lord Russell, Karl Popper and Chomsky, to the much less known perceivers of the unknowable such as you and I. While philosophy is the greatest feat of human awareness in its purity of questioning the obvious and mundane to probe into its finer first principles; it is simultaneously reserved for the scholar, intellectual, poet and plebeian alike. It originated, envelopes and overlaps all of the thinkers and the thinking described above.
This strange cataclysm of thought presented here is not merely to masturbate the mind. It is to present outwardly my desires from within. To be known, understood, appreciated and respected as I reciprocate eternally outside of myself toward everyone else in like-manner as evidenced by my desire and will to explore all of humanity in lovingly analytic isolation and together with the object of my deep and curious obsession as reflected within.
To tie it back to your statement @nirdre. It is better to be liked by me as I find it infinitely better to like other people. My love for humanity and the eternity we inhabit is a base truism. A fundamental fact. A metaphysical reality. It’s a given that cannot be acquired, earned or taken away. To know that I love you puts you in the same company as Gary Busey.
But for me to LIKE you. That’s a challenge! A challenge I never make easy even for myself. There’s too much to explore! And if you’re not interesting I don’t have much to like.
Nonetheless, to counteract this bleak attitude toward people I have begun to meditate, practice the very mysticism I intellectualize so that I can experience the revelations firsthand instead of remaining fascinated by them only secondhand. Also, I’ve decided to seek out implementation strategies for my Ti to better develop my Fe which includes, flirting, joking and sparring with you fine people here and elsewhere. As well as reading, writing, drawing… fuck it. Everything! What better way to explore the Universe than to be it!
And FTR, please do not take any of this pedagogical display as pontification of ultimate knowledge or intellectual theatre in order to demonstrate my mastery. I have none. There’s no possible way given our restricted and contrived concept of time for me to be able to humanly imbibe all of the intelligence I have - and am aware of - at any level as to be considered “expertise”. I’m just getting started, albeit, I am an intellectual pin-ball that bounces around ingesting information and connecting it all together from myriad sources within a universal context that could be considered my intellectual confines. There is a guide and rubric to this sage madness, even if solely governed by intuition as filtered through mental absorbtion.
I first became interested and aware of this site after some introspective and prospective Googling brought me to @Blake’s article ENTP is at Play in the House of Gemini a few years ago.
Well hey now, not only did I feel this article understood me in a way I didn’t even understand myself (I laughed throughout reading it). I’m also a GODDAMNED GEMINI!
It took me revisiting the site several times over the next few years to begin getting involved because of all of the astrology. Which I don’t denigrate. Merely just don’t understand. Also, my atheism has a natural aversion to such concepts as I tend to think these overly complex ways of analyzing the elemental and planetary Universe needlessly violate Occam’s Razor. I’m the same way politically. I’m an anarchist. Simply because there is no man-made system that isn’t anarchic to its core. Who rules the rulers? What regulates the regulations? Needless to say, I’m equally fascinated by these institutions and as with everything, seek to understand them well. It’s this long arc of knowledge I’ve acquired over time which makes stronger the opaqueness of the cosmic thread I see uniting the vast tapestry of our Cosmos itself which we glisten across like the dancing light of a spider’s web. Ni Dieu. Ni Maitre.
You see, my applied Ti is something I developed very early on at the risk of my Fe and at the cost of my Fi. Who could enumerate and explain all the plausible reasons this may be? But over time, it’s hardened me and made me lose that younger part of myself that used to be poor and humble yet wealthy in my compassion and understanding toward the human condition. It didn’t remove it (it can’t be erased any more easily than my birth marks) it just became hidden from me. I’m happy to be finding it again. And, I also see my evolution as a human completely necessary (perhaps inevitable) to begin self-actualization at this infant form of my development. If I claim to have knowledge of anything in this forum, or elsewhere, and it comes across as terse or arrogant, understand, that this is not knowing in its final form, but merely the ledge on which my knowing rests.
This was all to say, I feel inspired and enlightened by the people in this Maze and enjoy every one of you. I think myself no better or worse than anyone, as most of you I am actually learning from (it almost feels like stealing). I want to compete and learn with everyone in an effort to “like” more people .
@Blake and most (if not all) of you INFJs have that piercingly accurate and sanguine Fe I need to enhance and recalibrate internally (with help) to feel whole. But, in the infinitude of that all too familiar dualistic form, I reverberately (yup, made that word up) have that strong and penetrating Ti you all need to take those metaphysical stirrings and base realities you just, “know in your bones to be poetic veracity!” regarding the reality of the world and make them understandable as to be ultimately useful to existence. I want to help you save everything!